Question:
Are all Native Americans of Mongol/Siberian descent? (Please read below)?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Are all Native Americans of Mongol/Siberian descent? (Please read below)?
Sixteen answers:
Kanien:kaha'ka-[]-[]-^-[]-[]
2010-01-06 16:03:43 UTC
we are not from anyplace other than right here.



dna proves it



archeology proves it



if after being here 50,000 years we are not to be considered from this continent, then caucasians can't be from europe since they have only been there 20,000 years.
merkel
2016-11-03 02:11:25 UTC
Mongolians In America
anonymous
2016-08-20 18:01:24 UTC
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2014-09-27 02:17:23 UTC
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Ahmet
2014-07-20 09:45:37 UTC
Central asians and Native americans have also some common cultural characteristics such as:

1) rugs (mexican: http://area-rugs.novica.com/mexico/

Turkish: http://tr.kilim.com/shopping/kilim_rugs.asp)

2) tents: Native american tents similar to central asian tents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yurt)

3) horse usage

etc.
Tom
2013-11-04 16:42:07 UTC
"First Americans All from Siberia, Study Confirms" -

http://www.livescience.com/7412-americans-siberia-study-confirms.html



There are many opinions expressed here, while only some science is referenced. However, according to the most widely accepted research, it needs to be remembered that ALL OF US who live here in the Americas came from somewhere else (whether you think it was via South Seas Islands, Greenland, or the Bering Straits, etc.



No matter how long ago a people came here, human life did not start here. We all split off from previous people groups which emerged from Africa/Middle East. Those people spread out to the rest of the world, including the Americas.
Nick
2010-01-06 13:35:39 UTC
There is still no conclusive answer to the settling of the Americas. What you state is part of the "Out of Africa" theory. There is another theory that the people of the South Pacific sailed over to South America and populated up to southern Mexico.
Rubym
2010-01-06 13:36:35 UTC
If you trace back over 10,000 years, yes. But then so are some Europeans, especially in Eastern Europe who were descended from Huns and others from Central Asia more recently.



I have noticed that often people of Mexico and Central and South America with Native ancestry tend to look more 'Asian' than a lot of Cherokees or Sioux in this country. I don't know if there was more intermixing with northern or western Europeans, or something. I've seen people of Latin American heritage that I could not tell if they were from Asia or Latin America, and the other way around. You probably are Asian genetically.
Samwise
2010-01-06 14:07:28 UTC
I gave Nick a thumbs-up for mentioning the other migration route to the Americas. There's some archaeological evidence from South America for settlement prior to the northern route becoming available, at the end of the Ice Age. The direct route to South America would have been the end of the Polynesian migration directly across the Pacific Ocean, and it makes sense. We know they reached Rapa Nui (Easter Island); how can we assume that everyone who didn't make landfall there died before reaching the mainland? We're not particularly well informed on the nature of their vessels and the quantity of their supplies.



There's a third group, of course; the Inuit were crossing the Bering Strait for a long time before Europeans arrived on both sides and drew borders.



At any rate, I suspect the only way to determine whether Aztecs were descended from the Mongol/Siberian migration or the Polynesian one, or a mix, would have to be statistical DNA analysis, and we might never get enough data to be sure.



Did Nick really intend to suggest that the one migration was linked in some way to the "out of Africa" model of H. sapiens dispersion, but the other one wasn't? That seems weird to me. It's a question of different migrating populations, but neither is more closely related to the "out of Africa" model than the other, except in regard to when different dispersion models were proposed.
anonymous
2010-01-06 13:45:47 UTC
Oh, man, that was thousands of years ago!.. if you're identifying with a nation, it's because you're part of their culture.. If you feel like you practice customs similar to people in Mongolia or Russia or such, you might as well say you're part of that nation. But what's the use of saying you are part Mongolian/Russian if you have nothing to do with their way of life?

Nationality is culture.. "blood" has little to do with it.. all humans have the same blood content, after all. :P
ƝɨѕhҠѡe
2010-01-07 06:03:24 UTC
NO, Native Americans are NOT of Mongol/Siberian descent.



All evidence indicates that both North and South America were inhabited 50,000+ years ago. Some archaeologists maintain that humans inhabited the Americas over 100,000 years ago, The evidence found has been geofactual and not cultural.



Neither Asians nor Europeans existed at the time Native Americans were living in the Americas. The mongoloid characteristics did not even exist in Asia until 7,000 years ago. So any mongoloid characteristics people THINK they see in Native Americans did not come from Asia. No matter where people say Native Americans came from, all evidence proves it false.



This video states that the mongoloid characteristics did not exist in Asia until after Native Americans were known to be living in the Americas



First Americans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff2g-G0ogVI&feature=channel



This data shows a “World Population Relationship Tree“. You will see that Native Americans are placed on a totally separate branch from all other populations. (pg 2)



The Arctic Connection: Alaska to Siberia

http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2008-10-25.pdf



Virtually without exception the new evidence supports the SINGLE ancestral population theory. Native Americans are more closely related to each other than to any other existing Asian population.



A unique variant (an allele) of a genetic marker in the DNA of modern-day Native Americans, dubbed the "9-repeat allele," the variant occurred in all of the 41 populations that they sampled from Alaska to the southern tip of Chile. Furthermore, the allele was ABSENT in other ASIAN populations



2009: Native Americans descended from a single ancestral group

http://www.physorg.com/news160214945.html



Pedra Furada in the North-East of the Brésil probably represents the oldest archaeologic human site known in America. A total of seven charcoal samples coming from various hearths were subjected to analysis. The samples proved to be old beyond the limit of 48,000 years, indicating ages of 55,000 with 60,000 years.



2003: Padre Furada (Brazil)

http://www.speedylook.com/Pedra_Furada.html

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s990775.htm

2004: New Evidence Puts Man In North America 50,000 Years Ago

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041118104010.htm

2008: Humans walked America 40,000 years ago

http://www.itwire.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=19484



Native Americans are their own race.



Native Americans are the largest homogenous race on earth.
Raymond
2010-01-06 13:45:21 UTC
I do not know if 'Mongols' or 'Siberians' existed (as a race) that far back. They may have evolved from the same people who crossed the Bering Strait (OK, the ones that stayed behind without crossing).



The ones staying in Asia becoming today's Mongols/Siberians and the ones in America becoming the various North American "natives".



The only other movements (prior to the arrival of Europeans) included people moving from South America to various middle Pacific Islands (the return trip would have been more difficult, being against winds and currents) and later visits by Chinese navigators (which, we presume, were descendants of the same proto-Mongol-Siberian people). These visits certainly occurred as far south as the state of Washington and maybe all the way to Baja California.



Therefore, the best answer to your last question is 'probably yes' if you accept to tack on the prefix 'proto-' to Mongolian/Siberian.



The Chinese explorers, who came after the 'natives' were well established, may have mixed with them, but have not left any permanent colonies (of mostly-Chinese natives); in any event, the Chinese being probably of the same ancestry, any of their descendants (pure or mixed with the natives) would still trace back to the same proto-Mongolian/Siberian.



On the East coast, the Vikings have not left any pure descendants (although some individuals could have lived with the natives). There is some evidence (but certainly not absolute proof) that the Viking settlements on the East coast were abandoned in an orderly fashion as everyone returned to Europe (or, at the very least, Greenland). However, some of the 'natives' in Greenland are of European descent. And Greenland is part of North America.



Therefore, the answer to your main question (are ALL native Americans...) could be yes, if we exclude Greenland.



Of course, this raises the question: How about tribes who lived in the extreme North East of the Arctic Archipelago? Did they have contact with the European descendants living in southern Greenland? Probably not, but...
anonymous
2013-12-15 06:10:34 UTC
All life on earth began at Creation in the middle east and expanded from there with changes in people over time visa vie features, etc. The asian indians either walked on a land bridge, frozen sea, or boated across the straight and began populating the Americas from their entry point in Alaska all the way to the tip of south America. this is indisputable fact. the aging of materials found dates the oldest in Alaska and the most recent at the tip of south America. all peoples that came from asia were immigrants/nomads. all indians born in America are native americans. all people no matter their race who were/are born in America are native americans. the term native American used to describe American indians is inaccurate. the proper term is American indian. all American indians are related. in fact, all humans are related from the creation of Adam. all other arguments are null and void.
Marko T
2013-09-25 09:06:07 UTC
There are those here who cite the Solutreans arrival on the Americas or the Proto-Aboriginal Australian remains found in Brazil and perhaps they maybe promoting their agenda that Whites or Proto-Australians arrived at the Americas first to make us Native Americans feel like foreigners in our land. We'll here's my response to you all, F-k off and go dig into some European text book to make yourselves feel happy.



If you travel throughout the Americas there are varying facial types, body types that don't look like East Asians (e.g., Some Lakota Sioux, Zapotec, Pueblan Indians, Mayan Indians, Seminole Indians). However, there are many others who look Asiatic in full appearance as some of the Navajo, Apache, Nahua (Aztec descendants) from Mexico, or Quechua-Ayamara from Peru or Bolivia.



I am an Nahua descendant, that has mostly full blood Native Americans features (about 3/4's). I mostly get mistaken for East Asian (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Kazakh, Uzbek) and I don't have a reddish brown/copper skin tone. My skin tone is a yellowish olive color, in winter it can become Whitish and in the tropics I tan pretty well (brownish). I and have traveled north investigating (out of my own budget and financial resources) where is probably Aztlan (According to ancient Aztec records, it is the land where where the White heron come from) and the kingdoms that lie beyond Aztlan. I have been to the Navajo, Hopi reservations, Native American villages of Alaska, and even to China, Japan, Korea.

I have been told by Japanese, Kazakh, Korean, Chinese, Inuit/Eskimo that I look like them. I believe the true Aztecs that came from the North (Aztlan, perhaps Arizona (Hopi Reservation) or to lands way beyond like Oregon/Washington State or maybe even Alaska) and came to Mexico to pursue the legends of wealth, riches and subsequently created a powerful empire. I believe that the true Aztec DNA is perhaps co-mingled with the Navajo/Apache (which came from Central Asia) and that is why I have these East Asian features. I have been told that I look Mongolian. That is one nation I definitely want to visit. Mongolia & Siberia is perhaps the true motherland for myself and our proud tribal Nation, the Messica and other Native American tribes.
flip
2010-01-06 14:21:14 UTC
No, they are not. Although Native Americans are considered to be of the Mongolian racial stock. There has bee great strides in genetic profiling. One study I have seen is about the Objibui,I dont know how to spell this). In their genetic profile, there has been at least 2 influxes of european genetics. Using mitochondrial dna, which is passed only from the mother, it is estimated the european genetics were passed on far in the distant past. Before the invasion started by columbus.

The Clovis culture is another matter. The projectile points named after them, do not resemble anything from asia. The Cloves points are almost a mirror image of a Salutrian point from central France. This is a bi facial point with a fluted channel to attach the point to the shaft.



Then there is the Ausltalian abroginals livins in southern patagonia in south america. They had the same "Dreamtime" and Rainbow serpent stories
warlordnipple
2010-01-06 13:38:19 UTC
uh sort of but siberians don't really exist, the majority of siberians moved from western russia or migrated after better housing was created. generally that is so far back you would not consider them related, you are as related to mongols as the Irish are to the persians, or the egyptians are to the chinese.


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