Question:
Could the Allies have beaten Germany in WW2 without Soviet Union?
?
2018-12-16 08:55:58 UTC
We all know that Germans turned on Soviet Union and invaded it in 1941. What if the Germans never attacked Russia could the British/Americans have defeated the mighty German armies? all the best German soldiers died fighting in Russia in 1941-43 around Moscow, Leningrad and Stalingrad etc. So if they were still alive and well what would have happened do you think?
21 answers:
?
2018-12-20 08:42:14 UTC
Germany needed oil for their war machine. Lance Corporal Hitler lost sight of the oil goal and blundered into an ego battle with a giant economy that dwarfed Germany's and lost the war early that way.





Even with Hitler being a greater enemy to himself than the Soviet Union, it would only be a longer matter of time before a GREATER World Economy defeated that of Germany.
crysto
2018-12-20 06:23:04 UTC
I doubt that without the Russians drawing a large part of the German army and resources away from France. The Germans were already fighting on 2 fronts before the allies stormed the beaches of Normandy. Many people did not realise the allied armies were fighting up the Italian peninsular in the months before the DDay landings. the DDay landings opened a 3rd front. The Russians likely were doing a lot of the fighting and the pressure they were putting on Germany likely made the allied efforts much easier than they would have been had the allies had to fight the German's on their own. I doubt the British and American forces could have defeated the Germans if the Russians had been defeated and the Germans could have brought their full forces to bear on the Allies on the western front.
2018-12-17 08:39:21 UTC
Yes.
Anonymous
2018-12-17 00:53:45 UTC
It depends on what the USSR did instead of fighting Germany. If the non aggression pact was still on, Germany would still be getting raw materials from the USSR. If the USSR stayed out of it completely, it will come down to a war of attrition which the allies will win. It's just a matter of how long it takes
?
2018-12-16 19:28:13 UTC
No, your description says why.
2018-12-16 15:58:24 UTC
Probably. The Allies beat Germany in WWI despite the Germans defeating the Russians in that war. Yes, France was out of the game, from an Allied perspective, but American industrial dominance was even greater. True, America had to fight two wars, but I still think that they could have defeated the Germans. It just would have taken longer.
Huh?
2018-12-16 14:39:09 UTC
If the Soviet Union didn't enter the war against Nazi Germany for whatever reason, the other Allies would have struggled to defeat them through conventional warfare. D-Day or the equivalent would certainly fail unless the Allies opened up a second front somehow, perhaps by invading Italy or Yugoslavia from North Africa. Otherwise, they would have had to wait for nuclear weapons to tip the balance decisively against the Axis.
2018-12-16 13:02:48 UTC
Yes they could plain and simple
2018-12-16 12:30:04 UTC
I doubt that without the Russians drawing a large part of the German army and resources away from France. The Germans were already fighting on 2 fronts before the allies stormed the beaches of Normandy. Many people did not realise the allied armies were fighting up the Italian peninsular in the months before the DDay landings. the DDay landings opened a 3rd front. The Russians likely were doing a lot of the fighting and the pressure they were putting on Germany likely made the allied efforts much easier than they would have been had the allies had to fight the German's on their own. I doubt the British and American forces could have defeated the Germans if the Russians had been defeated and the Germans could have brought their full forces to bear on the Allies on the western front.
Andrew
2018-12-16 11:18:23 UTC
I would imagine that in such a case, the war on the front would of virtually stagnated, and so when the US had finished development of the atomic bomb, they would of utilized it against Germany. There's no war around it, once you get nuked you don't quickly recover. The threat of more such bombs would of prompted a rapid surrender.
?
2018-12-18 02:42:40 UTC
If the Soviet Union didn't enter the war against Nazi Germany for whatever reason, the other Allies would have struggled to defeat them through conventional warfare. D-Day or the equivalent would certainly fail unless the Allies opened up a second front somehow, perhaps by invading Italy or Yugoslavia from North Africa. Otherwise, they would have had to wait for nuclear weapons to tip the balance decisively against the Axis.
2018-12-17 22:08:37 UTC
In October 1940 Hitler abandoned His Planned invasion of the UK

that Equals the UK winning



Hitler was so afraid of the British he placed 300,000 Trained troops in Norway Just in Case the RMC attacked again



Germany was Running out of Fuel if he had Not won By 1943 he would have just stopped



If two American Companies had Not supplied Hitler with BallBearings SKF of Philadelphia and Fuel from Standard oil the war would have Ground to a Halt in 1943
Enguerarrard
2018-12-17 13:56:32 UTC
The critical resource right from the beginning was oil. This is now recognized. The German economy wasn't geared for a long war, and didn't have the capacity for it. The nearest supply of oil was in Romania, but that was completely inadequate for the purposes of the German army. There's no doubt that the war would have been longer, and more costly for the Allies, but don't forget the USA was developing the atomic bomb and would have used it on Germany as well.
Cymry
2018-12-17 12:26:50 UTC
The USSR was one of the allies. That's why, when the war was over, and Germany was divided between the conquering powers, the USSR got what became known as 'East Germany'. Berlin was also split between the UK, US, France and the USSR. In fact, about 6 months after the Berlin Wall was built, I remember seeing a Soviet War Memorial in the British Sector of Berlin. It was guarded by two Soviet Soldiers, but those soldiers were guarded by two British soldiers.
Toruko
2018-12-16 23:58:21 UTC
Yes. Adolf Hitler's personal direction

was the secret weapon that made

Germany lose. His worst decision

was starting a war using plans that

had the start date as 1945. When

all the weaponry advancements

would have been provided to

increase tactical superiority. It

didn't help that he also prompted

the more intelligent and wealthy

to find safer places of residence.

He proved that by being bitchy

with a super white orientation.

He did not have access to the

USA cure for STD. He indulged

in rapine common to the low class

of soldiery that occupied foreign

populations. Having accusers

killed in his political rise. Adverse

to open courtships. Keeping sex

partners as chattel. Until the end

where marriage made his love life

legitimate. Honeymooning included

poisoning his pets and new spouse.

Having his body burned helped mask

any pre-existing health effects that

contributed to his perverse nature.
?
2018-12-16 20:07:38 UTC
the important factor is the chronology of events



if german didnt invade the USSR then there was nothing to stop it continuing to attack the UK (in early -mid 1941)

odds are the UK would have beeen invaded

in this case there is no UK/US alliance ,and nowhere the US could put troops to attack germany AND germany woudl have access to all UK territories (+oil in middle east)



(so no way could the US and germany be at war against each other across atlantic)





In this case its more likely the US would have joined germany to attack russia



the problem here being the declaration of war by germany against the US after pearl habour



so there would either have been no war US vs germany (and presumably peace in europe, but continuing war in the far east japan vs US)

OR a war US+germany vs the USSR)
Sunday Crone
2018-12-16 14:07:46 UTC
You are asking for an opinion. At the time, which was over 70 years ago, it was believed the Soviet Union was needed to complete the mission and defeat Germany - thus ending the war.
TB12
2018-12-16 13:23:13 UTC
Not impossible,, unlikely,, much more difficult,, but not impossible. However, given Hitler's ambitions and the situation at that time I cannot imagine any scenario that would not have the Soviets entering the war at some point.
exactduke
2018-12-16 09:48:50 UTC
A cross channel invasion would have been difficult (to impossible) facing the full might of the German army. I doubt the Western allies could have pulled it off.
?
2018-12-16 09:36:23 UTC
If Germany hadn't invaded the USSR and just stayed in "their" part of Poland it's very very likely that with the German forces fighting on the Western Front that Stalin would have invaded the rest of Poland and attacked Germany. Even though the Germans and USSR signed the Moltov-Ribbentrop Pact, it was still very likely (as both countries had expansion plans) that they would have gone to war at some point. Would WW2 have ended any differently? If Stalin had got to Berlin a lot earlier it could have turned into a full scale Allies/USSR war.
gerald
2018-12-16 09:11:39 UTC
the Americans never faced the 6th army the British and French did and the French were destroyed and half a million British soldiers had to be rescued at Dunkirk so it was a very formidable force D Day the Germans were already beaten and still caused havoc with their reserves some kids of 14 /15 were part of the battle of the bulge I think it would be very difficult Britain stood alone for 3 years and was nearly defeated


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