Question:
do you think what Hitler did etc has still have an effect on people's lives today?
allgiggles1984
2007-05-20 04:30:22 UTC
including jews, germans, ameriacans, british, european etc and how? It obviously must be tragic for those who lost many in this tragic, iuhumane event but how does it affect nations and individuals today? do Jews have hatred for teh Germans still? what other reasons and effects has it taken on people?
25 answers:
2007-05-20 04:38:03 UTC
I don't think anyone has a problem with germans anymore in the uk anyway. even german football teams are tolerated these days! but i think the atrocities are an important part of european history that reminds us how things can go if we let them. just look at serbia to see how genocide can still happen in modern developed mulitcultural countries.
DeSaxe
2007-05-20 05:26:19 UTC
Yes

Politically

Without the Holocaust would the state of Israel have been created?

The cold war and the stagnation of eastern Europe would not have happened.

Would the British Empire still exist?

Since WW2 German is a highly passive country, with a huge political system, a small army and a huge reluctance to use the military that they have.

Do Jews still hate Germans? I think that is an individual question, I know that the Jewish leaderships in Germany is very powerful, and has influence in with the German government.

Over the 50 years of Soviet occupation eastern Europeans have lost a great deal of there original influences and are rediscovering the culture that they once shared. This difference is prominent in the invisible wall between eastern and western Europe. With a great amount of American influence German has become the powerhouse of Europe.



What I wonder the most about is how and what would have been different had the 60+ millions of people not perished in WW2. Like WW1 it was such a horrific loss of life, what new inventions, books, plays, composers, art, & music perished with the people. When remeber the battles, the wars but we forget the people.
Bogie
2007-05-21 04:54:43 UTC
What Hitler was responsible for doing will always have an effect on our world.



Besides the political issues brought up with others who have commented here -- issues that are global, there are so many personal issues.



People focus in on the 6 million Jews that died unjustly in war. War was always meant to be fought by the military - and exclude the civilians. There were also 6 million Gypsies, Gays, Eastern Europeans - anyone that did not fit the Aryan mold or better yet - had a mind of their own.



You are probably to young to remember a piece from the New York Times in circa late 1970s about children born to parents of the Holocaust. They tended to have memories that did not belong to them, and nightmares of atrocities that also did not belong to them. For all intensive purposes, it did -- the stories were so vivid, they took on new life for new victims.



And please, while on topic, let's discuss Israel. After The War, it was owned by the British. The British were tired of being attacked by Palestinians and Jewish Refuges. They brought their problem of "What are we to do with Palestine?" to the new United Nations. (Which, we are all amazed has lasted as long as it has because of the failure of the League of Nations, but really doesn't seem to do that much in the world.) It was the United Nations that turned the land over to the refuges (after all, who in Europe wanted their Jewish neighbours to return) and for the first time in our lifetimes, a Jewish nation was born.



One thing not mentioned here was one effect on post-World War II Germany. It is mandated that they must take refuges from political countries, age 18 and under and care for them. That is right - clothe them, house them and educate them. The expense is on the German government -- and it is one of the reasons Germany has a growing population from the Middle East. It also is quite a way to observe the new prejudices that are emerging there.



You keep asking questions like these and some of us wonder why? Is it a school project and you haven't a clue how to begin doing real research? (BTW, just because a person gets the "Best Answer" here - does not mean it is necessarily the "Correct" answer -- many times, I am sorry to say, it isn't. Or are you asking just to stir the pot?



P.S. When you write a question/reply here - there is a "Check Spelling" you can use. It is a very useful tool, you might consider using it. I'm still trying to figure out what " iuhumane event" is? And another thing, in English when we mention proper names, such as religions and nationalities the first letter is capitalized. Which sometimes you do and sometimes you don't - please try to do every time.
popartangel
2007-05-20 04:45:36 UTC
I do not think Jewish people have a problem with Germans today or even the innocent people who lived in the country at the time who had nothing to do with this. A lot of them did not agree with Hitler either but were under a dictator and a lot of the stuff was not known about at the time.

I think most people are more concerned that something similar is prevented from happening again.

Some people think we should forget the war but some believe that remembering these attrocities acts as a deterrent not to let it happen again.

Unfortunately there are still some repurcussions. My daughter and i were bullied at school because of our German ancestry.

For the Jewish people they lost ancestors and the feelings are still very raw that those people suffered in the way they did stories and prejudices can be passed down through families in the way we teach our children. People still visit holocaust sites to remember relatives and write about their ancestors experiences. There is still a lot of pain in some communities.
Nicky
2007-05-20 04:45:30 UTC
Without a doubt. There are still hundreds of thousands of holocaust survivors still in the world and the effects of what they experienced has had a great affect upon not only themselves but how they've raised their children and grandchildren, not losing oneself to anger and mistrust over such an experience is a hard thing to do if not impossible. There's also the Germans for whom this is a great shame, including those who fought in the war against Germany. Not to mention the effects the war had upon the entire world, we Americans wouldn't be in the position in the world that we are had World War II not occurred, both militarily and financially. Heck, we Americans constantly pull out WWII as a means of insulting the French, forgetting that not so long ago they helped us into existence.
Elsa
2007-05-23 20:13:16 UTC
Well, defeating him made it possible for you to ask really stupid questions now, because as a Punjabi Christian (supposedly), you would have been taken out by the Germans pretty quick. (And we won't go into that topic any further, will we?)



You should be glad that, as a symbol of "bad things," Mickey Mouse failed in pursuing the rationale of the Third Reich.



And y'know, having seen all your repeated questions in multiple forums, it's hard not to deduce that maybe there's some kind of a theme going on here: why do you have this compulsion with trying to figure out why lower castes have been repressed over time?



And if that's the question, you could perhaps Google or Wiki to get the answer, rather than bother us....
2007-05-20 04:42:03 UTC
Just like the African American holocaust (i.e. slavery) still effects people today, I definitely think what Hitler did still effects people of all ethnicities today. The reason? Well it was just a horrible crime against humanity and just hearing about that type of suffering, really touches people. We must learn and hear about the mistakes of the past, so we don't ever repeat it.



I don't think Jewish people hate Germans just like I know most African Americans don't hate White people. But I do think there is still some residual tension among these groups and that can only end with understanding and forgiveness because none of us can be held accountable for the past. We can only be accountable for what we are doing right now. So that means hate shouldn't be taught to our children because that just keeps it going for generations. Thus why there is so much racism still prevalent today. Racists aren't born, they are TAUGHT.
Veronica Alicia
2007-05-20 05:07:34 UTC
Of course it still affects people. Why does an old Jewish friend still keep a packed suitcase under his bed? So that he is ready to flee again. Why will many people not buy products "Made in Germany" (and Japan)?

I have a small piece written by Clifford Longley talking about the "Shadow of the Somme" when 100,000 men did not return home, the devastation which this had on families, the girls who never married and the babies they were denied, and he asks "Can we mourn the neverborn?" He answers his own question "I can"

I saw the effect that both Wars had on my parents, I queued for potatoes in the snow, I remember buying my first banana.

Why did 4 plane loads of Jews emigrate to Israel in one day last August - because they are afraid, not just of right-wing fanatics and attacks upon their Religion but because of their personal memories, their familial memories, their racial memories.

My friends say they are sick of being "The Chosen People" - could He choose someone else, please?
ThePipeMan
2007-05-20 05:01:22 UTC
more than 50 million people died in the wwll...however it had a good part ! In this period the technological advances were dazzling , most of the electronic devices we use now were designed of perfected during the war. However , the price that had to be payed was enormous , and it mustn't happen again! I've recently seen a documentary about football hooligans in Europe and the pure racist hatred still persist . I know that this kind of people are guided by ignorance (the hooligans) but that reflects how a single mad man changed our lifes and society for years to come!
treeskylondon
2007-05-21 16:45:45 UTC
I am Jewish and I certainly don't hate Germans, and I don't know any one else who does. But the effects are definitely still very strong. the holocaust survivors in my family live good lives now and are thankful for being alive, they love their children and grandchildren and cherish the fact that they got another chance at normal life after the horrors they were put through but they still have nightmares about it and painful flashbacks and still refuse to talk about certain things that happened to them there as they say that they are too terrible (although we always try to encourage them to tell us and pass on the history before they too are gone and it will be lost with them, but we understand how difficult it is for them). Not to mention all the family they lost, especially watching their parents being taken away to the gas chambers and not being able to stop it happening or say goodbye, and then having to clear away the bodies of their loved ones as part of their work camp jobs. things like that will never be forgotten for them. but as for blame or hatred, that's not an issue for the survivors, especially considering that nobody could object to the dictatorship.
Grendle
2007-05-20 05:15:13 UTC
Understand that many of the Jews who settled in Israel are of German and/or other European extraction, so don't confuse the issue.

For those of us who have the wit to learn from history (a surprisingly small minority), a study of Adolph Hitler can yield a vast ocean of lessons, including how to successfully employ a demogogue, how not to politicize a war, the importance of not believing one's own propaganda, the dangers of allowing aggressive behavior (the Nevil Chamberlane lesson), terror as a weapon of war, the importance of labeling in shaping public opinion, and so forth and so on.

Hitler and the response to him by his enemies changed the face of international politics forever.
cerri-anne
2007-05-20 04:42:11 UTC
yes i think it still affects people today because all the people who fort and the families of the people who did lost reletives and friends and i suppose some people expect that those wars have influenced others to do the same like the war in iraq

ok its not on such a large scale but if a holy war does break out it will effect the whole world and brothers may fight eath othe over each ones beliefs and religion a bit like the american civil war
2007-05-20 04:56:28 UTC
Well firstly there are the millions of Jewish people who fled Germany to other countries, particulary America where Jewish culture is very very very much alive. I hear its you have something like 80% of your baby boys circumcised. That's a Jewish custom, which no doubt came from Jewish people living in America now.



After WWII there came the establishment of the United Nations, a united force determined in keeping peace, and many other crucial problems in our society.



Mass genocide is sort of frowned upon now. Hitler was a defining moment.



There are many people alive who have felt the effects and fear. My grandparents were one of them. They were Jewish and were petrified of being persecuted and trusted other people very little throughout their entire life. Some of that trickled down into my father's way of life and probably a bit of it onto me (but I like to think its different now).



Jews don't hate Germans, they hate Nazis and the word Hitler. The German people had very little to do with it, they were forced to fight under a dictatorship. It was unjust and unfair, it wasn't like all the German people had a secret meeting to kill all of the Jews and people without blonde hair and blue eyes. That was the decision of crazy fanatics.
2007-05-20 05:42:55 UTC
Firstly a lot of the Jews were German nationales and what they hate, as do others is the Nazi regime. Secondly we have the U.N and the EEC and thirdly for first time in European history we look forward to a future without fear of invasion or attack from our direct neighbours.
cymry3jones
2007-05-20 06:23:25 UTC
Not a lot. When Hitler was defeated, the United Nations was formed. One of the institution's mandates was that there should never ever be another genocide. Rwanda, Srebrenica (recently conveniently not designated as genocide), Dafur, Halbja (possibly just a massacre, but never discussed because Saddam Hussein was executed for a different crime against humanity).

Significantly, the spell checker doesn't recognise any of the names cited.
2007-05-20 04:42:02 UTC
Most people dont have a problem with German people.Those who went through the war suffered terribly and probably suffer still from the effects of the bombs and losing loved ones.Some Jews have forgiven but healing still needs to go on.
frankturk50
2007-05-20 05:44:37 UTC
Yes there are thousands of Palestinians persecuted by the Jews who constantly use their treatment under the Germans to justify what they are doing to others who weren't involved.
2007-05-20 04:49:26 UTC
the events are in the past,gone ,but yes they have an effect.I never knew my grandparents on my fathers side and my father had to flee for his life when Germany invaded Poland never to return to his home again.War is a terrible tragedy but the children are no way responsible for the actions of their fathers.Today Germans are the same as us and no different from than any other race
2007-05-21 17:42:34 UTC
Yes, it does. I am harassed for being Jewish and being true to my culture. It is nothing new to my people. I do not hate anyone, we have been persecuted for thousands of years, you learn to ignore and move on, not let the hatred ruin your life because someone else does not have one.
2007-05-20 04:40:17 UTC
i am english and live in germany



we live in a house shared by 6 familys



and they all hate me,not my wife(she is german)



i am seriously thinking about taking my wife back to England



i cant cope with this shiiiite much longer
HwaT?!
2007-05-20 20:06:39 UTC
ofcousre... go to germany and shout heir hitler.... lets see how the people would react to you... there are some who may have left it in the past but others won't forget of the injustice hitler did to the world
Sue
2007-05-20 04:39:10 UTC
Personally, i believe it does. So many individuals were victimised for being who they were, much as they are now. All those racist, homophobic excuses for human beings that are out there now are only following his example and in my experience are no better than he was.
2007-05-20 06:13:19 UTC
I was born in Germany myself, but my family's Jewish, you see, I don't seriously hate Hitler for what he did, he or rather the Nazi troops, arrested my whole family when I was a boy of 11 and i had just turned 11 the day before, I remember that day as a taunting nightmare that will haunt me for the rest of my life. i found a ricksaw in my boy-scouts bag and I sawed on one of the steel rails that held me prison, I sawed on it the whole time i was on the train and just as the train stopped I managed to saw through it,( my sisters advise to saw on it) I jumped out and told the rest to go along with me there was a whole family next to mine and they quietly jumped off one by one, but when it was my family's turn only my sister managed, my mama, papa, baby brother and grandparents all were sent to the concentration camps. my sister died of hunger a few days afterwards and she gave me a bag of money and told me to board a train for Shanghai, it was the only place that would accept a Jewish boy like me she told me. I didn't want to let go of her but a man was approaching and I had to go without my sister she also gave me a handkerchief our grandma had sewed for her which had a beautiful sight of our front garden and a locket she carried on her neck, I ran as fast as I could to the and harbourl and I bought ticketsand I took an Itallian ship to Shanghai. The rest of my life was in Shanghai but one day the Japanese were coming for Jewish boys like me and I had to go into hiding with one of best friend's family,( he was Chinese) he gave me a room and his grandpa teached me how to write Chinese characters and Julian(my friend's English name) I can't exactly remember his Chinese name , he teached me English.
2007-05-20 05:39:36 UTC
Yeah, Neo Nazis.
melsatar
2007-05-20 23:55:52 UTC
no and germans are so good ;)


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