Did Anne Frank really exist ?

Question

The story seems implausible and contradicts much of known history. 

Plus, it has already been established that at least part of the diary was edited. 

Answer 1

If she were alive I think she’d be rather disappointed to find out that she never existed in the first place

Answer 2

Yes, pretty much actually.

Answer 3

Alot of people, places and things existed before you were born, Einstein.

Answer 4

Edited means things were removed that didn't add to the story and words may have been changed to make something easier to understand, without inserting things that weren't true. It was written in Dutch and had to be translated into one of the 60 or so languages it has been published in. Not everything translates perfectly from one language to another, so some editing is required.

Answer 5

how does the story seem implausible? Many people went through similar experiences during that time period but the only reason anne frank has become a "symbol" as you put it is that her diary gives us something that you can't read about in history books. Her diary was a way for us to truly understand how it felt to be a jew during world war II and what everyday life was like when you're constantly living in fear. We have facts and statistics but her diary is the only way we can begin to understand the true emotions that jewish people were feeling. Thats why her diary is so important. Just as fredrick douglas became a "symbol" for the abolition of slavery due to his novel about his struggles. It has nothing to do with her being a child, its just the most in-depth evidence we can find of the struggles people faced in world war II. And I don't think it's "extremist" to be against the slaughter of an innocent religious group but to each their own, I guess. 



You also mentioned that parts of the diary were edited. I was unable to find any evidence of the diary being edited by historians. I found out that Anne Frank DID rewrite the diary and took out bits from the old version before her and her family were found but thats as close as I could get. If it was edited at all after being found, it was most likely done by historians who did it for the sake of being able to better understand what it was saying. Keep in mind, anne frank began writing this when she was 13, there must have been some words that were hard to read or some bits that were written with poor grammar so it was hard to understand what it said. But I can't even find evidence of that happening, this is just a guess. I also don't know how it contradicts history? If you could explain exactly where that happened, I'm all ears. I think pretty well acquainted with her diary since I've read it and watched the movie a few times. AND I've taken AP Euro where I learned a lot about this time period but if you have evidence that I am unaware of, I'd be interested in hearing it. 

Answer 6

Stop trying to fake things up. Yes it was real. Deal with it.

Answer 7

Im not sure ............ No oneknow

Answer 8

Yes . Anne Frank really existed.

I've been to the house in Amsterdam where she was hiding from the Nazi's.

There is a cupboard in one room that is actually a door to another part of the house.

The diary was 'translated' rather than edited.

She didn't write it it English .. and she was only a child.

So ..

What is implausable and ''contradicts history'' about her story ?

Answer 9

And the moon landings didn't take place either -- it was just another giant conspiracy 



I suspect the diary was edited ---she was 13 when she started it ,and only 15 when she stopped writing it ,when she was captured and sent to Auschwitz .



But no rational person would doubt her existence or the tragedy of her life . 

 

Answer 10

Yes it was real but you're missing the point of the story.  There were lots of Anne Frank types  (Jews hiding from Nazis with the help of good people assisting them, risking their own lives). They all had a little different story but basically all very similar.  

Answer 11

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Answer 12

This question is Holocaust denial in the guise of a question.  Yes, she did exist.  You can go to the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC and read the manifest from the train the family took to the Polish murder factory (I do not like using the expression "death camp") where she was murdered.  Her story contradicts NOTHING.  Jews who were hidden were even called, partially in jest, "submarines."

Answer 13

It's like asking if Lucrecia Borgia existed.

Answer 14

no, she was a lie made up by the government.

Answer 15

Yes, it's obviously real. You can visit the Ann Frank house, her diary has been translated into several languages, so there are obviously going to be some changes. There are photos of her, and I believe documented film of Otto Frank talking about her and his family, as he was the only one to survive.

Answer 16

"contradicts much of known history."



 which bits of "known history" would that be?



"it has already been established that at least part of the diary was edited"



Not exactly "edited" - the original book came out in 1950 but THAT was an abridged version of her diary

 the FULL unabridged version came out in 1996.



"Often extremist groups will fictionalize a story and create a symbol of that story" - and what would be the point of doing that? -

The book didnt come out until 1950

 The world had already known the facts about the concentration camps for 5 years  (from people who had witnessed and filmed them in person) - No book would make them change their minds to believe it was all fiction

 And if deniers were happy to ignore the facts and witnesses already gathered no book would make THEM change their minds either

Answer 17

I am not sure 



In amsterdam but the daily queues that go for over a kilometer everyday. 



Tourists who want to see the room she supposedly lived in pay quite a few Euros  to go in to a very enclosed space and then get hustled  out very quickly so what ever the reality it is certainly been profitable.

Answer 18

Yes and so were the concentration camps. 

Answer 19

Of course.  The evidence for her is pretty overwhelming.  Basically, she is impossible to deny for all but total idiots.

Answer 20

You silly person. You've been watching YouTube Holocaust deniers again. Yes, Anne Frank was real. Her father edited the diary after the war. He cut superficial and personal items out of the published book. That's it. The Nazi's really did kill millions of people and they really were that bad at home and in the countries they conquered. I don't know what you think is "known" history but I am thinking you got it wrong.

Answer 21

Yes, she existed, and yes she came out of hiding and died in the custody of the Nazis. There's a lot more evidence to suggest that Shakespeare was a ghost writer . . .

Answer 22

Of course she did

Answer 23

What are talking about, Anonymous?

The story - Jews being hidden from the Nazis by very brave sympathisers - is not in the least implausible. Nor does it contradict any of 'known history'. So you begin with two lies.



Plus you announce "it has already been established' - beware of the passive. Anyone making a statement like this is probably trying to put one over on you, and so is Anonymous. There was never any secret that Anne Frank's father did remove a few details which, in the mid twentieth century were thought unsuitable for the general reader - they included Anne's thoughts about sex. Anonymous will no doubt be pleased to know that the entire, unedited Diary is now available, and that the diary was authenticated



"The Netherlands Institute for War Documentation commissioned a forensic study of the manuscripts after the death of Otto Frank in 1980. The material composition of the original notebooks and ink, and the handwriting found within them and the loose version were extensively examined. In 1986, the results were published: The handwriting attributed to Anne Frank was positively matched with contemporary samples of Anne Frank's handwriting, and the paper, ink, and glue found in the diaries and loose papers were consistent with materials available in Amsterdam during the period in which the diary was written."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diary_of_a_Young_Girl#Authenticity



Anonymous, you say: "Often extremist groups will fictionalize a story and create a symbol of that story. Typically someone who has strong credibility and draws sympathy...like a child."

Really? how about a couple of examples?

And what do you mean by 'extremist groups'. The diary was authenticated by The Netherlands Institute for War Documentation, has been published by mainstream publishers and is available for study in schools. None of this is characteristic of anything produced by 'extremist groups.'



On the contrary it is the extremist groups who attempt to challenge the authenticity of the diary:



In 1975 David Irving who "the High Court in London in 2000 declared to be a Holocaust denier, racist and antisemite"was sued for claiming the diary was a forgery and his publishers had to remove this statement from his book.

In 1978"Ditlieb Felderer, an Austrian Holocaust denier, wrote a viciously antisemitic pamphlet called Anne Frank’s Diary: A Hoax in which he attacked Anne’s character. In chapters called “Teenage Sex” and “Sexual Extravaganza,” Felderer called Anne’s relationship with Peter the “first child porno." (worrying for so many reasons).

In 1996 David Irving tried again - although admitting he hadn't actually read the whole diary.



So the extremists and the Holocaust deniers are the ones casting doubt on the diary's authenticity. Do you agree with them?

Answer 24

Yes, Anne Frank really existed.

Answer 25

She was real, all diaries are edited for publication, her father took out some references to her talking about her periods.

Answer 26

Yes, Anne Frank was real.

Answer 27

"The story seems implausible and contradicts much of known history."

Try to be specific rather than make vague claims.

Which parts of the "story" (a word you have chosen to make her existence seem less than accurate) do you find implausible and contradictory?

What editing is it that you object to?

And which "extremist group" do you mean?

Answer 28

Of course she did..... I suppose you think Auchwitz was an early Butlin's too??

Answer 29

Yes, why do you question it?