Question:
In WWII, why didn't the Allies invade Germany through Italy?
2017-04-26 08:38:02 UTC
Italy fell to Allied forces around 1943-44, I believe. Since Italy shares a border with Austria to the North, I never understood why the Allies didn't simply invade the Third Reich from the south. This would have completely circumnavigated Hitler's Atlantic Wall, and would have been easier than the D-Day landings.
36 answers:
2017-05-04 04:52:26 UTC
they certainly tried! sicily was captured in august 1943, but the germans held out on the italian peninsula right up to the end of the war... italy isn't like northern france - the terrain is hilly and rough in the former, and the germans fell back upon line after line of excellent defensive positions... grinding through italy was like going up against one atlantic wall after the other...
cymry3jones
2017-04-29 16:55:28 UTC
Ever heard of Switzerland?. It was neutral during WWII. There is no direct route from Italy to Germany. The allies did, however, start bombing Germany by flying over Switzerland from Italy.
2017-04-28 00:48:10 UTC
Possibly to stretch the distance between fronts. It would take more fuel and resources to resupply across those distances.
trurider t
2017-04-27 13:44:13 UTC
The allies were fully aware of the fact that Hitler would pour troops into Italy as the UK could read all of his orders to his generals. They played him and the result was that he could not fight off the Russians or the Allies when they landed in Normandy. They also forced him to keep a mass of troops and planes in Norway.
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2017-04-27 00:26:08 UTC
Giving it some thought
robert x
2017-04-26 21:38:55 UTC
are your serious? teh aliies did try invade italy, the germans fought tooth and nail and kept the invading force tied down, then really bad winter weather caused misery for the allies, battles for a place monte casino and beach landing at anzio are classic world war two battle costing the lives of thousands of allied and germany troops.. churchill called italy the soft underbelly of europe but it turn out to be a tough old boot, if it had been the main invasion it would have failed,
?
2017-04-26 21:28:44 UTC
It's called the Alps which made travel with any kind of powerful armament such as tanks more than a little rough.
Kieran
2017-04-26 20:32:31 UTC
When the British army landed in Italy, they found the mountain terrain difficult. The Americans preferred to land in France, where transport was easier and the people more ready to fight (The Italians were more keen on peace than turfing out the Germans). This meant vital sea transports were not sent to Italy, hampering the campaign.



Nevertheless, Rome fell on the 4th of June 1944, two days before D-day. However, the fighting in the Apennines and the successful retreat of the German army, showed that crossing the Alps would be nearly impossible.



The Allied force could have stormed the Alps but the narrow roads would have clogged up transport supplies, leaving them vulnerable to bombers. It would also have wasted the huge manpower of the Allies at that time attacking so short a front. The vast countryside of France was more suitable.
vulcan_alex
2017-04-26 17:21:41 UTC
I seem to remember one of my relatives fighting both Italian and German forces in Italy, It was quite a fight and if it was not then perhaps we would have invaded Germany that way. Others have made lots of comments.
Athena
2017-04-26 10:20:51 UTC
Stalin convinced FDR and to a lesser extent Churchill, that a two pronged approach from both sides was a better strategy.
ShayOpal
2017-04-29 12:10:01 UTC
That's what they did.
2017-04-29 11:57:16 UTC
Russia
2017-04-28 11:22:12 UTC
Because German troops in Italy fought very hard to prevent the Allies from advancing northwards in Italy, thus the progress of the Allies in Italy was slow.



It would not be true to say that the whole of Italy had fallen to the Allies even in 1944. Indeed Italy partly changed sides after the Allied invasion, but the German troops and the remaining Fascists held on hard for many months.
2017-04-27 22:36:42 UTC
Many Allies felt affectionate towards Italy and even though Italy was an enemy they kinda like them because they had given civilization many great advances such as pizza, Mario Bros, and gangsters so you know they had some type of respect points going for them. For these reasons, the Allies were like you know Italy you're a bad dude and we're fighting against each other and will kill each other BUT we will draw the line at using your illustrious land as a gateway to invading those smelly Germans because that would just not be cool. And that's why the Allies didn't invade Germany through Italy. Capische. Comprende. Or do you understand?
tuffy
2017-04-27 17:48:31 UTC
There was only one mountain division in the entire 2 million combat troops of the U.S. Army. Furthermore, supply lines for the British, Canadian and American were much shorter between Britain and Normandy in France, thus the invasion (June 6, 1944) of German occupied Europe happened on the French coast of the English Channel.
2017-04-27 10:38:29 UTC
The Germans were fighting in Italy right to the end of the war.
London Man
2017-04-27 07:46:32 UTC
Because Italy was and still is fascist
RestiveRedhead
2017-04-27 00:53:34 UTC
The Italian/Austrian Alps. Switzerland narrowed the allowable front down considerably, The Alps would restrict any advances to the few passes in the mountains, which could be easily defended. What slowed the advance up the Italian boot itself was the Apennines, a mountain spine that runs up the peninsula with branches going east and west across the peninsula. This presented a huge barrier to any advance at Cassino, held up the Allies for six months. The Alps were even more formidable.
poornakumar b
2017-04-26 20:51:00 UTC
Most of the main battles were fought in the Soviet Union, as Hitler chose them (he wanted that land & at its maximum, he was under the possession of 700,000 miles²). The Soviets made the greatest contribution by way of troops & civilians killed. The Soviet Red army was the first to enter Berlin, chasing back the German forces.. Most of the forces from both sides, were hence, committed there. Between Italy & those lands, France was occupied by Germany early on, where there were virtually no main battles.

Italy held no special favourable choice.
2017-04-26 15:02:19 UTC
because that would have ended WW2 to early Eisenhower was told extend WW2 so corporate USA can make more Money and the Germans will Kill more communists



then in 1945 the USA started Operation Paperclip to help 10,000 Nazis escape in payment for Fighting the Communists



Churchill got his Staff to come up with a Plan in 1941 and made preparations then the USA took over and

ignored the plan that would have avoided the warsaw pact



all we had to do was follow the Nazis we did have 10 divisions in Italy before D Day



Remember Churchill wanted to invade Via the Soft Underbelly of Europe but the Coward Eisenhower did what Corporate USA wanted



http://nstarzone.com/HITLER.html
Louie O
2017-04-26 13:48:23 UTC
Switzerland and the Alps were in between Italy and Germany, Switzerland was neutral, the Allies couldn't go through Switzerland and the Alps could be easily defended against a modern army.



And in August, 1944 while German troops were tied down defending western Europe and Italy the Allies invaded southern France, see Operation Dragoon. They eventually reached southern Germany in March, 1945.
Tim D
2017-04-26 13:29:50 UTC
I wonder what my Grandfather and Great Uncle were doing as they advanced the length of Italy from Sicily fighting Germans, Austrians and Italians?



BTW look at a relief map of Italy and Austria – that bit in between is known as the Alps
2017-04-26 13:24:51 UTC
Because of the Alps. The Germans would have been able to defend the narrow Alpine crossing more easily.
?
2017-04-26 12:54:51 UTC
Destroy Third Reich from which direction was a great debate among allies. For Soviet Union, this was not a question since she always advanced from the East. However, for western allies, they had at least 3 choices.



The first choice was landing on North shore of France, this is the most straight forward way, but it is hard. The second choice was from Italy, but this way was too far and Mountain Alps was a tremendous barrier for advancement, this was proved to be true at the end of war. The third choice was from Southern France, although this way was easy, it was too far away from main battle field, western allies army might be lag behind by Red Army and Soviet Union might occupy the whole Central Europe at the end of war.



What was the choice of Western Allies? In fact they did not choose any place but landed on all the 3 site. Ally landed on Salerno, Italy on 3 Sept. 1943 in Operation Avalanche, then they landed on Normandy on 6 June 1944 in Operation Overload, the final landing was Operation Dragoon on 15 Aug. 1944 at Southern France near Marseille. So Western Ally DID try to invade Germany from the South through Italy, and as you can see, invasion of Italy started the earliest.



However, Battle of Italy was very difficult and unsatisfactory. Most of British best troops and a large US army were trapped in this battlefield, the advancement was very slow. Although Ally captured Rome on 4 June 1944, it was still half way to Germany, and not counted the army needed to cross Alps. Ally finally stopped on River Po at early May 1945 and still could not invade Germany from the South.



Landing on Southern France finally converged with the Grand Army departed from Normandy and their advancement was much more satisfactory, they cross Rhine on late March 1945 and capture Berlin on early May. Fact proved started from Normandy was the best way to destroy Third Reich.
BRET
2017-04-26 12:16:31 UTC
They certainly tried! Sicily was captured in August 1943, but the Germans held out on the Italian peninsula right up to the end of the war. Italy isn't like northern France - the terrain is hilly and rough in the former, and the Germans fell back upon line after line of excellent defensive positions. Grinding through Italy was like going up against one Atlantic wall after the other.
2017-04-26 09:35:58 UTC
They were scared shirtless and shitless.. The allies would've been annualited tehy had zero idea how to fight in mountains the Germans were the kings of mountain killing and hunting fat Americans
?
2017-04-26 09:10:36 UTC
There was an Alp in the way.
Edward
2017-04-26 08:55:43 UTC
They ALSO did , but the Germans fought a very strong rear-guard action all the way up through Italy.
?
2017-04-26 08:53:00 UTC
As the Americans came up the Italian boot, we bottled up whole Nazi armies in N. Italy. We used the Alps to do that. The Germans couldn't get back into Germany - and neither could we have.
2017-04-26 08:45:06 UTC
It was a possibility but not very practical - it would have involved moving everything to North Africa and if you think crossing the Mediterranean is easier than the English Channel you are quite mistaken. And if you are planning to launch the biggest armada in the history of the world without your enemy knowing, that isn't going to be the place to do it. That said the Italian Campaign did keep the Nazis occupied whilst Overlord was readied.



In any event it would have made far more sense to land on the French Riviera - but once ashore in Italy you have to overcome a lot of obstacles eg the Gustav Line which stretched from the Tyrrhenian to the Adriatic coast. Monte Cassino was a strategic ridge that had to be bombed into smithereens along with the medieval monastery of St. Benedict of Nursia, on the (mistaken) assumption it was a Nazi stronghold. Do you know where the Alps are?
2017-05-04 08:52:59 UTC
'cause of the alps... the germans would have been able to defend the narrow alpine crossing more easily...
2017-04-30 03:55:42 UTC
Allies Invade Italy
?
2017-04-27 01:03:23 UTC
Blame the jews
2017-04-26 22:05:09 UTC
Never thought of it.
?
2017-04-26 14:28:09 UTC
The mountains were a formidable barrier. The German army put up stiff resistance from one mountain peak to another, so much so that the US Army was still fighting south of the Alps in 1945. There was a secondary invasion of France up the Rhone river valley, but Normandy was chosen because the defenses were weak there.
mj
2017-04-26 08:47:26 UTC
Mountains make troop movement very difficult.


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