Question:
Which dynasty is more interesting? Plantagenet or Tudor?
anonymous
2010-08-07 15:42:27 UTC
I'm fascinated with the Tudor Dynasty. Most of it probably isn't accurate of what I know(I love Philippa Gregory's books which I know are mostly fiction). Henry VIII and his wives are just so interesting. I wanna read more about the Plantagenet. Do they have any drama like the tudors? Is there any interesting books about them that are historical fiction?
Seven answers:
anonymous
2010-08-07 18:37:33 UTC
I find both Plantagenets and Tudors fascinating - as someone said, the Plantagenets lasted a great deal longer than the Tudors, which was only for about a century. The thing is, the Tudors are incredibly popular with the media, so we have countless films and TV series about Henry VIII and his wives and Elizabeth I. (Not quite so much about the other monarchs in between, or Henry VII!) There are also a myriad books about the period.



There's plenty of drama in the Medieval era, from wars in England and abroad, to murders of Kings, and the mystery (Richard III's time - he was the last Plantagenet King) of the two little Princes in the Tower - the sons of Edward IV, Richard III's brother.



If you like Philippa Gregory, she has a book out about Elizabeth Wydville (Woodville), the wife of Edward IV and mother of the two little Princes. It's called "The White Queen", and is followed by "The Red Queen", which is about the mother of Henry VII, Margaret Beaufort.



http://www.amazon.co.uk/White-Queen-Philippa-Gregory/dp/1847374565

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-Queen-Philippa-Gregory/dp/1847374573/ref=pd_sim_b_2 (I think there's going to be a trilogy. Don't be put off by the ghastly covers!)



Alison Weir is a very popular historian who writes mainly about the Tudors, but I think there is a new novel out (she has written a few novels, too) about Eleanor of Aquitaine, a fascinating Plantagenet Queen.



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Captive-Queen-Alison-Weir/dp/0091926211/ref=pd_sim_b_2



Jean Plaidy was a popular writer of historical novels about kings and queens, and you might find her Plantagenet series interesting.



http://jeanplaidy.tripod.com/id18.htm



Good luck on your journey of discovery.
ammianus
2010-08-07 19:54:48 UTC
The Plantagenet dynasty lasted much longer and had a much wider variety of interesting monarchs and personalities, as well as historical events - English invasion of Ireland, the Third Crusade, Magna Carta, the first Parliament, Scottish undependence,Hundred Years War, Black Death, Peasants Revolt,Joan of Arc,Wars of the Roses.



Audio visual sources:

'The Lion in Winter' - (2 versions, 1968 movie and 2003 TV movie) is about Henry II, the first Plantagenet moanarch.
Tipton Conquest
2010-08-07 16:18:11 UTC
The Plantagenet has drama, but NOTHING like the Tudors. Print the myth and read it. The Tudors are by far the most interesting.



This is my personal opinion.



I hope this helps. Cheers.
Uncle Silas
2014-08-10 08:18:30 UTC
Both are interesting ; as they each have their own dramatic events. The Tudors really were not rightful heirs of the Throne, The Plantagenet were.
Krista
2010-08-08 05:39:17 UTC
Oh you bet the Plantagnet family has drama! They were the opposing family that started the hundred years war and this was way before the Tudor's.
?
2016-04-17 14:16:27 UTC
I think Henry VIII is very interesting. I don't know that I have a favorite wife, but Jane Seymour and Catherine Parr were the only really successful wives (Jane died before Henry could get tired of her and gave him the son he'd always wanted, and Catherine Parr outlived the King). If you like his story, there is a great documentary called "The Six Wives of Henry VIII."
?
2010-08-07 17:14:19 UTC
The Plantagenet era lasted from 1154-1485, encompassed 15 monarchs, the Wars of the Roses, the Hundred Years war, the Black Death, the Peasant's Revolt and much more.



The first King was Henry II, the son of Mathilda who briefly ruled England but lost her crown in a short civil war. Her brother, the legitimate heir had died in the White Ship and she claimed the throne although her cousin Stephen claimed and won the throne. Henry reformed the judicial system, but was also responsible for the death of Thomas A'Beckett.



Henry married Eleanor of Aquitaine, one of the most powerful women of her era. Two of her sons became King - Richard the Lionheart who distinguished himself as a warrior and crusader and then the hapless King John. It was during his reign that Magna Carta was signed and that was the era when most Robin Hood legends were based. After King John came Henry III who was crowned at the age of 9 and he was succeeded by Edward I who waged plenty of wars (generally successfully) on Wales and Scotland and the modern UK union began to take shape. Edward II was an ineffective king, losing Scotland to Robert the Bruce at Bannockburn and eventually was overthrown in a plot orchestrated by his estranged wife and her lover Roger Mortimer. Rumour has it he was murdered at Berkeley castle by means of a red-hot poker inserted anally. His son, Edward III had his mother imprisoned and Mortimer executed. The Hundred Years war began under Edward III as the French tried to take back some English colonial possessions in France. The early part of this conflict saw great victories for England at Crecy and Poitiers, it also saw the arrival in England of the plague (in 1348/9) and the subsequent wiping out of much of the population. This led to the breakdown in the Feudal System which tied the peasantry to the land.



Unfortunately Edward's son, the Black Prince predeceased him and at his death the crown went to Richard II, another of the weaker kings who was used by guardians such as John of Gaunt. To pay for the on-going wars with France a poll tax was instituted and that led in 1391 to the Peasant's Revolt and by common consent the peasants were revolting. The unpopular Richard II was deposed by his son Henry IV and he was soon quietly murdered.



Henry IV was a sickly man who faced a series of disputes in Wales which wore him down to the point where he died and was succeeded by his son Henry V who had cut his military teeth in fighting the Welsh. Henry V was always painted in profile, looking to the left. In one of the scraps with the Welsh an arrow pierced his facial armour and embedded itself in his right cheekbone leaving a scar. Henry V went into military history for invading France and thanks to the French carelessly forgettimg the lessons learnt at Crecy and Poitiers succumbed again to the longbow at Agincourt. The consequence of the victory was that Henry V married the daughter of the French King (Charles who was mad - well who can blame him after the loss at Agincourt despite home ground advantage, fresh troops and an overwhelming numerical superiority). Unfortunately dysentry did for Henry before this came about.



A strong leader was needed at this time - the French were none too keen on seeing an English king succeed Charles and instead of Henry V they got his nine month son Henry VI who was controlled by several regents. Joan of Arc and taxation and a breakdown in law and order led to Henry VI having a mental breakdown. Temporarily he was replaced by Richard, Duke of York. Unfortunately having had a taste of being King in all but name and with legitimate grounds to being King himself he refused to give up power and thus began the Wars of the Roses.



For the next thirty years the Houses of Lancaster and York fought a series of bloody battles - one at Towton in 1461 was the bloodiest in English history with an estimated 28,000 men getting killed in one day, that represented around 1% of the English population at that time. The battle was fought in a snowstorm and featured two sets of archers hammering the ldaylights out of each other. It seems that little quarter was asked or given, despite being outnumbered the Yorkists who also had the worse land triumphed thanks to having the wind in their favour. The ensuing rout continued on the next day. More men fell at this battle than on day one of the Somme in 1916.



Edward VI therefore became King and at his death the crown passed to his son Edward V, or at least it would have done but their uncle, Richard III had him and his brother imprisoned in the Tower of London and they were never seen again. That was 1482, Richard ruled for just three years, losing his crown at Bosworth in 1485, a horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse as Shakespeare somewhat over dramatically described his final moments and so began the Tudor era.


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