Question:
waht would have happened had the germans won at stalingrad ?
2011-07-15 10:25:40 UTC
and which was more decisive , stalingrad or battle of moscow ???
Five answers:
sgatlantisrose
2011-07-15 11:17:51 UTC
The Battle of Moscow was more decisive. The failure to take Moscow in the first year doomed Germany, which needed to knock out the USSR before the Soviets could mobilize their full resources. Once the Soviet Union survived that first winter, it superior numbers and production capacity would grind down the Germans.

A victory at Stalingrad would have made the war last longer, but Germany would still have lost. Hitler was simply demanding too much of the army, forcing them to fight from Leningrad to Stalingrad. The cost to the Soviet Union would have been much higher, as the Germans were very good at defensive fighting, but once again numbers would simply have overwhelmed them.
?
2011-07-15 19:33:11 UTC
They'd still forced into using the unplanned-for Plan B which they had to concoct bc the Soviets had destroyed Plan A at the Battle of Moscow in Dec, 1941.



Hitler was adamant that air power be used physically destroy Moscow including its entire population.



He thought destroying Moscow would mean the immediate unconditional surrender of the USSR.



But by the time of the Battle of Stalingrad in late 1942-early 43, the Soviet war machine was in full cry with its factories at least equaling Germany's production of materiel, and the Red Army was quickly bringing to the Eastern Front many divisions of battle-proven Siberian forces.



Red Army general Zhukov had used them a double encirclement counter-offensive that he made famous to destroy a major Imperial Japanese Army division on the USSR-Manchurian [Chinese] border in 1938 to permanently terminate the Japanese threat to the USSR. [He used that same counter-offensive maneuver more famously @ Staingrad.]



And the Soviets were receiving large amts of aid from the US' Lend-Lease program in the form of weapons, ammo, fuel, raw material and vehicles.



By the war's end, 2/3's of the Red Army's trucks were made in the US and many were fueled by the US.



The USSR received 2,000 locomotives from the US for its war effort.



Even in the late 1930's Hitler and the Japanese knew they were losing the arms race.



So if by some quirk the Nazis won at Stalingrad, they still would have faced the impossible task of a greatly out-produced industrial base attempting to supply a 1.5 million man army in the notorious Russian winter over a 1,500 mile-long front over 1,000 miles from Germany.



The Wehrmacht's, and Nazi Germany's fate would have been the same.



Maybe worse bc they would have fought an impossible losing fight for a longer period.



Stalingrad was much more decisive; Moscow was a lost battle that seriously disrupted Nazi war strategy.



But at Stalingrad the Soviets physically destroyed the German's flagship 6th Army and 4th Panzer Division and permanently broke their morale.



Of the 230,000 German troops in the 6th and in the 4th Panzer, 5,000 lived to return to Germany.



Zhukov went to Germany as commander of the First Belorussian front in the Battle of Berlin, May, 1945.



He told his troops "We will extract brutal revenge here for what the Germans did in Russia."



He was promoted to Marshal of the Red Army and appointed commander of the post-war Soviet Occupation Zone in Germany.



General Dwight Eisehower was a great admirer of him and they toured the USSR together after the German surrender.
2011-07-15 18:01:12 UTC
Not much would have been different.

Remember, it was still cold as heck and Germany did not have the infrastructure to support such a forward position. Russia had a slash and burn policy, the same one they used on Napolian, so the Germans had nothing in the areas they conquered.



Also, Stalin feared the Japanese more than the Germans. Most of Russia's heavy industry was past the Ural mountains, out of the range of Hitlers air-force and Stalin had a large army in reserve incase Japan invaded.



In fact, Hitler was mad as hell when Japan attacked the U.S. becasue it meant that Russia need no longer fear a two front war. They were free to turn their forces on Germany.
NAnZI pELOZI's Forced Social
2011-07-15 17:33:10 UTC
The Allies would not have had to deal with the Reds after we beat Germany....No Cold War...Possibly not even a Korean War.

Prior to WWII Germany AND Russian pal up and jumped on Poland....Stalin was more paranoid than Hitler and Jumped Hitlers boys.

After Germany lost, The Allies mistakenly allowed the USSR to jointly control the losing team, when in reality the Soviets SHOULD have been considered one of those losers.

When Japan Surrendered after the 2nd atomic Bomb was dropped, Stalin got all ballsy and jumped onto the Japanese in Manchuria, then took over the northern end of Korea. Thus setting up the soon to be fought Korean War....

Yeah, We should have let Hitler Kick Stalin in the gonads before we kicked Hitlers butt....
?
2011-07-15 17:43:05 UTC
They would have lost somewhere else.



Then maybe we would have fought a major war with the Congo!


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