Question:
Would calling the Holocaust 'The Final Solution' imply that you believe that it was a good thing?
anonymous
2011-10-11 02:51:39 UTC
Would referring to it as The Final Solution make me look like a neo-Nazi? I want to use alternative names, but I don't wanna look like I support the Nazis.
Eleven answers:
DeSaxe
2011-10-11 05:44:07 UTC
Wow, I never new that the Term "The Final Solution" had a nazi overtone to it. I had always thought of it as the results of the Wan see conference, where the extermination of "undesirables" became a government policy.



The understanding I have between the 2 are:

the Holocaust began with the Crystalline and lasted until the end of the war. It was the systematic genocide committed by the German government against Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, and several other groups of people viewed as undesirable by the Nazi Party.



The Final Solution - refers to the decision for the Germany government to accept genocide as a policy. Prior to this decision the goal was to remove those peoples from Germany, but as Germany started taking other countries they were getting more and more of the peoples that they did not want to have. German had deported a huge number of Jews to Poland, once Germany conquered Poland they got those Jews back, along with the Polish Jews. It became very apparent that deportation was not an answer. At the Wansee conference the Germany government decided that deportation was not the answer but that extermination was the logical final solution to the jewish problem.
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2011-10-11 10:07:18 UTC
The Holocaust or Final Solution was a consequence of a meeting at the Wannsee Conference on January 20th 1942. By then the war was starting to turn against Nazi Germany but their campaigns in 1939 - in invading Poland and then Barbarossa had brought large tracts of Eastern Europe under their control. Although there weren't many Jewish people in Germany, these captured territories had large Jewish populations. Mostly these people were collected in Jewish ghettoes. The Conference attendees, led by Reinhard Heydrich, decided on a far more aggressive policy and determined to rid Europe (or Nazi occupied Europe) of what they perceived to be a problem. Previous attempts and ideas had included transporting Jewish people to Palestine, Madagascar and anywhere that would have them. The Holocaust though was intended to solve the problem by eliminating the race.



This meeting concluded with the "Final solution" or "Endlosung" to the Jewish question and set in action the holocaust.
anonymous
2011-10-11 11:39:25 UTC
In reference to the Nazi attitude you could use "Final Solution" but as a general thing it would be a no no. You could say 'the extermination of European Jews' or 'persecution of....'. But Holocaust is such a well known term for that time that you might as well stick to it.
branix
2011-10-11 10:32:35 UTC
Personally, I think it carries a stigma, and therefore I would not use it. However, the words themselves are fine and other than its obvious implications and what readers will call to mind by reading the title, I would use it. For alternative names for "final and solution" use a Thesaurus.



I like

Absolute for "final"



and as for "solution,"



maybe Answer, Resolution, Result, Key, etc.
Doug
2011-10-11 10:02:48 UTC
No it wouldn't imply support. It's a commonly used term even today because it was what the Nazis called it. Other perhaps more politically correct terms are "The Shoah" or just (as you have said yourself) the Holocaust. You can always vary your terms by just using straightforward words like "mass murder" , "organized slaughter" , "industrial scale death camps".
anonymous
2011-10-11 09:58:06 UTC
It's the usual political thing of putting a good-sounding title on the unspeakable. Orderly disposal sounds good, resettlement even better.



Perhaps you could call it 'The Nazi Final Solution' ***to differentiate it from your own thinking. In that case, they rightly 'own' the concept - you do not - unless you claim to be a Nazi.
Johnny Range
2011-10-11 09:54:10 UTC
I think you're ok. Many people reffered to it as "Hitler's Final Solution". If I were you, I'd use something else because Hitler is a bastard
Jm.b
2011-10-11 10:02:37 UTC
Assuming you're being serious, it impies nothing of the sort. It's just a description of a hateful policy that was being enacted at that point in recent history.
cp_scipiom
2011-10-11 10:53:44 UTC
it is the nazi name for the Holocaust. "endlosung" if I remember well.

no implications in using it- it is simply the way this socialist plan was actually called
Just for Fun
2011-10-11 19:56:53 UTC
Yes.



If you want an alternative name, use the Shoah.
Cee
2011-10-11 10:12:45 UTC
Remember not to smile when you say it.


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