Question:
the guillotine?
jack the ripper
2008-02-22 08:29:47 UTC
why not the guillotine, instead of the rope, so as to make sure the first time of trying.
Eleven answers:
anonymous
2008-02-22 15:45:45 UTC
Both barrels of a 12 bore in the mouth pointing slightly upwards works fine.



and the answer is yes if the wages are OK
kvn8907
2008-02-22 16:50:29 UTC
Because before the guillotine was invented, it wasn't a sure thing. The guillotine was a contraption that perfected the ancient execution method of "the axe". The trouble is, sometimes the executioner missed, or didn't hit hard enough, or the axe was dull, and needed more than one swing to kill the poor guy. The guillotine made sure the person got decapitated the first time, every time. Plus it was a little too personal an execution for most, and the guillotine made the executioner one more step removed from the execution, because he was just pushing a lever rather than actually holding the axe.



The rope wasn't that great either. It used to be just someone standing on a stool, then the stool would be removed and they'd be left dangling there to suffocate. It wasn't until the 19th century that they perfected the drop gallows (it's an anachronism in The Patriot when they use them. Roland Emmerich said he knew, and didn't care, because he thought it was more dramatic), where ones neck could be quickly broken, though if done incorrectly a person could still be left dangling there, or be decapitated.



I'm not sure when you're talking about, since your question was so short. If you're talking about in the past, in most cases it was because the guillotine wasn't invented. It didn't come on the scene until 1792. And even then, it wasn't available everywhere. If you're talking about these days, with executions like Saddam Hussein, it's because the rope is slightly less gruesome. It's rather simple, relatively certain to kill them instantly, and anyone looking doesn't have to see any blood, if it's done correctly.



Though I really wish you were more specific in your question. It's hard to answer questions when you don't know exactly what's being asked.
Veritas
2008-02-22 17:50:25 UTC
OK! DNA can be transferred from one person to another, eg. by handshake. Sometimes a persons DNA might be at a murder scene legitimately. (The Home) What's to stop a bent copper, or anyone else for that matter, planting someones DNA. It is also possible to make mistakes in identifying DNA, in the same way that mistakes are made in say, breast cancer screening.



It is the very fact of people thinking that it is foolproof, that makes it particularly dangerous, IE beyond debate.



Putting on one side all the other reasons, debated to death already, against the death penalty, I firmly believe that most people toying with the idea of bringing back the death penalty, are somewhat voyeuristic about this subject, and secretly would enjoy attending an execution. You demonstrate this by debating the pros and cons of different types of execution. You want to bring back capital punishment, but then you introduce a rather sick note by feigning concern for the condemned by pointing out that we had better use the guillotine so that he doesn't have to suffer as much. Even that is very debatable.
Dicko
2008-02-22 21:30:25 UTC
Actually, the guillotine is not a French invention, whatever they may think. (They also claim to have invented/discovered, among other things, the aeroplane, steam power, the potato, tobacco, and a whole host of other things that the rest of the world attribute to other nations...)



The Halifax Gibbet, in Halifax, West Riding of Yorkshire, was a guillotine-style device used on occasion to behead wrongdoers, from 1541 on. The major difference, and Guillotin's only real improvement rectified this, was that the blade was straight rather than at an angle, and so chopped rather than sliced...



The last execution by the Gibbet took place in 1650; there does not seem to be any confirmed reason why they stopped using it, but I have heard more than once that it was because it was considered inhumane - which puts our Dr Guillotin's claim that his invention was humane into perspective!



If you must kill convicted prisoners, I'm sure there are far better ways than the guillotine. It's terribly messy, and not at all nice for the poor cleaning-lady...
rayevans456
2008-02-22 17:02:39 UTC
what if the person was innocent.? be a bit late.head in a basket,blood everywhere, family crying, and then you realise he was only delivering the pizza.of course history has had its problems.i mean take the french revolution.it wasn't long before Robespierre and co were living in the same palaces as the people they guillotined.and eating off the same plates. now i know this was not the reason for the revolution.which brings me back to the original question.innocence,the only guiding factor.i mean if they are guilty then why not throw them to the crocodiles.okay not many in France at the time,or now if it comes to that so if it was a case of first time get it right then i have to agree a quick slice and bobs' uncle.no consessions, no last minute reprieves.no bloody time.might say throughout history the rope appears more times than the guillotine.take Judas for instance.thirty pieces of silver yet only one length of rope.which apparently was attached to a rotting carcass at the time.sling it over a tree, and there you go.another small time scumbag destined for the choir immortal.so its an unresolved issue.my preference has always been poisoness snakes down the underwear.no fuss, no need for a crowd,no special haircut,or petty jurisdiction issues."gather up snakes and take them unto yourself" very biblical.very organic.and quite excruciating.

and what about the industrial mincer ? I'm going to say one thing.'deterrent'
anonymous
2008-02-22 20:27:41 UTC
The reason why the British disliked the guillotine is because it was used to murder the French Royal Family during the vile French Revolution along with thousands of the French Aristocracy, their servants and their children etc.



In any event, here in London, happy crowds would gather daily at Tyburn Tree to see the next batch of villains hanged by the neck till they be dead. You just don't want to spoil the London Mob's entertainment. The results could be catastrophic.



Vitis the site below, it's where Madam Gillotine did her work : -



Place de la Concorde (La), Paris - IgoUgo Reviews

Renamed Place de la Révolution in 1792, a guillotine was installed and ...

The square is home to one of Paris' most prestigious hotels, the Hôtel Crillon. ...

http://www.igougo.com/travelcontent/JournalEntryActivity.aspx?entryID=26789



The Scarlet Pimpernel was an entirely fictional character. Most commonly refered to as the Scarlet Pimp by us Londoners : -



YouTube - Scarlet Pimpernel

Scarlet Pimpernel Poem. ... Content of this nature is not necessarily prohibited

on YouTube, .... The Scarlet Pimpernel 1934&1982 "When I Look At You" ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_v6JyYpfOo
Louise C
2008-02-22 18:57:59 UTC
when hanging meant strangulation, it was a slow, painful business, and people did sometimes used to survive it. Sometimes this was taken as a sign that they were innocent, and they would be reprieved. After the drop was invented, the neck would often be broken when hanging took place. the long drop was invented in 1874, where the criminal's exact body weight would be taken into account to make sure that the neck broke instantly on hanging.



If capital punishment was re-introduced in Britain, I imagine the long drop would be used again. However, I hope this is not going to happen. Civilised countries do not have the death penalty.
Charles.R
2008-02-22 18:40:07 UTC
Hanging in Britian was used on common criminals and it also was an entertainment for the crowd. Beheading, with an axe was used on gentlemen. The guillotine in France was intended for the Revolution to be humane, quick, it went with the englightenment ideas of equality: 1 method for all, as it were, and there was no drawing out of death, there wasn't time for hanging's they had so many 'aristos' they wanted dead. Damn them!
?
2008-02-22 16:33:27 UTC
Too bloody for the ladies, Also, I don't know if I've ever heard of someone being hanged more than once.
anonymous
2008-02-22 16:37:31 UTC
what why are you asking this such a werid question but the gulliotine cuts off the head they used to used the head for football and bowls back in the day the would used the skulls for many resaons now people don't need heads for anything
?
2008-02-22 16:39:42 UTC
Didn't always work first time.


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