Question:
WW 2 historians what do you think of Field Marshall Montgomery?
Rex Neanderthalex
2013-04-27 15:09:52 UTC
Was he as good as some people opine or was he too careful to take any aggressive chances like others opine. I know he was a "prima donna", how would he rank along with Kesserling, Rommel, Guerdian, Patton etc.
And I don't like the word "opine" but I couldn't think of another word to use at the time.
Four answers:
ammianus
2013-04-27 19:34:19 UTC
I rank him ahead of Patton and way behind any German snior commander at the front.



Montgomery was successful because he planned carefully and took full advantage of his situation - he was able to build up a big superiority in men iand supplies because he could,and so did.



However,both Montgomery and Patton enjoyed air suprenmacy from Sicily onwards - shorn of this,I seriously doubt either would have won many battles,and as such would be footnotes in the history books.
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2013-04-27 22:30:40 UTC
He got the job done. In the final analysis, that's all that really counts.



When he took over the Eighth Army, he inherited a mess. The whole shebang was demoralised and shambolic. Monty gave them back their self-belief - which probably goes down as the best service he rendered during the war. Certainly his method of so doing was founded partly on charisma and the like - but this was far from the whole story.



He won at Alamein - but then he OUGHT to have won; considering that he had superior numbers, tank-strength, supplies and intelligence.



In Normandy, he had a lot of trouble with Caen, and Goodwood was a failure - but it is often forgotten that it was Monty's pinning down of the best German units that crreated the weak point that Operation Cobra exploited. Oh; and the way the chain of command was structured at the time, Patton was technically Montgomery's subordinate at the time.



Market Garden failed; but it was a bold plan that came within an ace of success. A general who is never prepared to take risks is a failure by definition.



Later in the war, Monty's utter lack of tact was a problem.



Rating him?



Probably the second-best British commander in the war, after Slim. Superior to Patton - another prima donna who simply ploughed forward and relied on Uncle Sam's hugely suprior resources - but inferior to Bradley.



Not touched by genius as were Rommel and Guderian (note spelling). Kesselring (note spelling) is over-rated. He got his butt whipped during th Battle of Britain (he was actually a Luftwaffe General) and the Battle for Malta. Fortified some of the most naturally-defensible terrain in Europe, and held against assault from an enemy whose eyes (and resources) were mostly directed elsewhere.
Louie O
2013-04-27 22:36:43 UTC
He didn't stack up to those commanders. He wouldn't of made Field Marshall in the German Army, and it's Kesselring. Operation Market Garden was Monty's plan. It was a disaster and it's considered one of the most poorly planned operations of the war. Most military historians say he was too cautious and he didn't like to fight unless he had a superiority of men and firepower.
?
2013-04-28 00:49:02 UTC
I would suggest you read 'Colossal Cracks' if you can. Unlike the Germans or Americans, Montgomery had to fight a war under several constrictions. Britain had to conserve manpower, she could not just recklessly throw away the lives of the soldiers of the Dominions and Empire since they held the right to refuse orders and request advice from their own parliaments. Montgomery cared about his men, and had to ensure Britain had an army at the end of the war to play post-war politics. The view that Montgomery was just a cautious leader who used overwhelming numbers, is the opinion of outdated historians.



While my knowledge of the Battle of France is limited, my understanding is that Montgomery showed himself to be a more than competent general officer. In Britain, he revolutionized the training of men and demonstrated himself to be an excellent leader.



In North Africa, he demonstrated he was a superior general to Rommel. Rommel had showed, each time he had launched an offensive, that he did not appreciate the importance of logistics (his initial advance in 1941 left Tobruk in Allied hands and he outran his supply line thus handing over the initiative to the British. In 1942, after heavily defeating the British at Gazala he outran his supply line and was thus pretty much stuck at el Alamein). Historians generally agree that Rommel was an excellent divisional leader, but he should never have risen above Corps leader and he made numerous major mistakes in Africa. Montgomery seized upon the major efforts that the British had taken during the previous years to ensure that his logistical supply line would take him all the way to Tunisia. Unlike his predecessors he ensured his forces did not overstretch themselves, that had resulted in so much back and forth fighting. Rommel demonstrated that when the British overstretched themselves, he could launch counterattacks that would 'reset' the entire campaign. The advance that took place ensured victory and no setbacks.



I have to skip over Operation Husky and Italy, due to my limited knowledge of the campaign.



He played a key role in the planning of Operation Overlord, and commanded the ground forces throughout. The allied forces defeated Germany and advanced through France and Belgium at near enough the same speed the Germans had several years before, although they now had to face numerous technological advances. During Normandy, he launched numerous offensives designed to keep the Germans off balance and to keep German forces pinned down away from the intended breakout zone. While the battle did not go - letter for letter - according to plan, it was extremely successful.



Guderian favored concentration of force, breakthrough, and encirclements. So did Montgomery. His operations in Normandy show this, and his post-Normandy suggestions for a single thrust into Germany highlight this. Market-Garden, while it had numerous flaws, show innovation on his part and attempt to utilize everything at his disposal. There is more to its failure than just Monty's planning, likewise for the delay on tackling Antwerp. Market-Garden highlights a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't attitude some show towards Monty.



One historian noted how Patton, regardless of common perception, was very much like Monty. He highlighted how he ensured he had superior numbers, built up his supply train, had enough supplies for the operations, made heavy use of artillery, and planned heavily for operations. Peter Allen argued the operations Patton conducted in crossing the Rhine were very "Monty-esc".



Monty was one of the best generals Britain had to offer. He was a very flawed character. He lacked tact with people. He was loyal. He did what he had to do to ensure Britain fought a successful war and that Britain had an army at the end of it so they could play a political role.



Edit: "Goodwood was a failure". No it wasn't. It was a strategic success. The operation did largely what it intended to do: pin the Germans down, although territorial it did not achieve all of its objectives. The tank losses have been overplayed, and modern research have showed them to be very minor. Reading the primary sources show that the tank losses were replaced within days. It pinned down German forces when it was important to do so, and Cobra was supposed to be launched while it was underway. For numerous reasons, Cobra was delayed thus Goodwood was not launched in the context of what it was designed.


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